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Bocephus
New Member
USA
24 Posts |
 Posted - 09 Feb 2010 : 08:46:32
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This should allow all users of Win7 Ultimate or Win7 Proffessional to run any Win Xp program.
Did any of you even look?
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/
Just breath. There are millions of XP users out there, they aren't just leaving us for dead. |
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robotrog
Starting Member
Australia
2 Posts |
Posted - 10 Feb 2010 : 12:11:36
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Will the LightJockey software work on Windows 7? In a word Yes! Go here http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx Download and install Virtual XP PC then install LJ and the program works fine. XP drivers for the dongle all work.
By the way I still run Martin 3032 to control over 100 Martin fixtures simply because it works. I am running LJ to run my newer fixtures and will eventually change over to two LJ systems.
Robotrog
www.beyondthedarkside.com
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Jumpin_Jeff
Average Member
USA
378 Posts |
Posted - 10 Feb 2010 : 13:33:50
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Do you also use the sound analyser in XP mode? Does it actually work for you?
Personally, I'd prefer not to have to run the extra overhead of another OS.
I can't run my DJ software in XP mode, as XP mode doesn't allow for a virtual video overlay, and xp mode doesn't seem to see my audio card to trigger to the audio.
IMO, not a viable solution. |
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DJ Antoon
Junior Member
Netherlands
120 Posts |
Posted - 05 Mar 2010 : 18:42:27
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Since 18 december, allmost 3 months have passed.
So maybe I could ask if some news is about the trade in programm... |
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ishowcebu
Senior Member
Philippines
635 Posts |
Posted - 12 Mar 2010 : 03:27:45
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I guess Martin doesn't want the trade in program for they will be losing a lot of money???? anyways, the Philippines is again a recipient of smuggled fake Martin LJ2 triangular dongles (more than a hundred units) that are sold cheaper than that of original sunlight dongles. And sunlight dongles are also victims as they have fakes too... Martin will be needing their money to go after the copiers of their products.
The thing is Martin should try to profit from this one way or another (selling cheaper or lowering prices)?. Like they say, if you can fight them, join them. Cheers..... |
Fil
www.ishowcebu.com
there's always a solution. |
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stokesmo
Starting Member
2 Posts |
Posted - 07 Apr 2010 : 15:48:52
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im trying to install usb-dmx controller on my new windows 7 laptop and it keeps coming up with this
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy294/stokesmo/error.png
if anyone could help out thatd be great, i tried virtual pc/xp and i need professional windows 7 to do it, i only have home premium |
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Paul Pelletier
Administrator
Canada
7202 Posts |
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stokesmo
Starting Member
2 Posts |
Posted - 07 Apr 2010 : 20:14:30
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| its 32-bit windows7, the beta version installed fine but now the usb-dmx device cant find the drivers to work |
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lulighttec
New Member
USA
22 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2010 : 06:09:57
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| I'm new to this discussion, but I have a concern that is kind of related. I have an old LJ dongle (the 4x4x1.5 inch box) that has serious USB issues. I can't even get LJ to run the same (or at all) between different Windows XP Users. Part of my hardware issues (trying to find the "right" USB port to plug the dongle into) I think would be alleviated by trading in my older dongle for one of the newer ones, so a trade in program I think would benefit me greatly. Note: I'm running 32-bit XP on a 64-bit machine which can do a lot more. I think it would also be great if LJ could be re-written for 64-bit OS. It's time for an overhaul anyway. There are some features that I'm surprised aren't there, but I've learned to live without them. Still, people are moving to 64-bit, and will continue to do so, so at some point LJ should catch up with them. Anyway, trade-in program good. |
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djroughhouse
New Member
Canada
23 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2010 : 20:23:23
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Just to confirm, I succesfully have the "USB-DMX interface II" (single dmx out) unit working on Windows 7 (32-bit) (not sure if this is a unit that is not supposed to be supported?).
All I had to do was right click on the Martin Light Jockey shortcut, navigate to compatibility options, and tell it to run as "Windows XP, Service Pack 3", accept the settings, and start light jockey. You should now be able to find the LJ adapter, given you have installed the drivers.
Again this was 32-bit Windows 7. Anyone who can confirm this on there systems would be appreciated.
You may require additional downloads from Microsoft to allow for Windows XP SP3 compatibility, I don't remember, sorry. |
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John S
New Member
USA
42 Posts |
Posted - 04 May 2010 : 00:36:02
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| I too have it working with Win7 32-bit, no additional download needed. |
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Ozwild
Junior Member
Brisbane Australia
99 Posts |
Posted - 27 May 2010 : 17:26:35
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Wow, This has been a thread worth reading.
Its been a while since I have been here due to change of jobs. I have sold, programmed and used LJ since back in the days of ISA cards and windows98. I have to say that I have never actually personally paid for or owned my own LJ output device. For me personally I can not afford to buy my own and would probably cost me a divorce if I did buy one. I still create profiles for friends from time to time. Nothing worth uploading though.
I have done a lot of research into all of the different PC based lighting controllers available especially the Open Source Software and Open Source Dongles/output devices.
Anybody that thinks that any of the open source programs is even 1/2 way close to LJ really has no idea or don't use LJ to anywere near its full capabilities. I have looked at the Enttec Boxes as well as the home made ones on the net.
I did purchase the Vellerman Kit USB DMX Controller. It is Open Source type devise. It will operate with Freestyler, Possibly Sunlight as well as Chamsys PC Software and many more. Unfortunately not LJ naturally
Freestyler Looks like LJ in Many ways but it is clunky, not as user friendly has no CD player function and Cuelist that can be configured for automation like LJ has.
Sunlight just drove me nuts trying to get it happening and I uninstalled it
Chamsys is powerful but you seem to need a degree is something special to use it. I am told the Hog Lovers will have no problems with Chamsys.
I am also having training on Clarity by LSC for my Schools new Performance venue. Not my Choice but you have to do what you have to do.
I used LJ to control my Lighting and Backing tracks for musical Theatre. I could program LJ to run the entire show automatically leaving me to make the sound happen. I could run a 20 performer show on my own thanks to LJ. Programing the Cues to Time Code with the backing tracks from either CD or MP3 via media player. In over 300 Performances. The one & only time I had a problem was the night I had a helper and all they had to do was hit the Run Button and they missed. They pressed the play button on the CD player instead. I had to start the lights manually.
I can not find any other Lighting control system that can do that without spending huge amounts money and anybody that thinks an Open Source Lighting controller can come even close is Dreaming.
To get 7 years use from a computer component, especially in a commercial environment I feel is a fair life. I would like to see 7 years from a Disco Mixer that costs the same as LJ and if it did last that long it would be due to plenty of repairs and costly maintenance. Think Rane or Denon or Pioneer. These can be as costly as LJ but they will not last as long as the LJ2 USB has.
A bit of commonsense is required in cases like this. Martin will be doing everything possible to get the 64bit Drivers happening, They are not the only ones taking longer the would normally be expected with 64bit Drivers. Martin generally continue support for there products long after the products end of life and I fell they will still continue as much as humanly possible.
Believe me when i say that the support Martin offer is well above what other organization offer. You can not please all of the people all of the time but Martin do there best.
I will one day own LJ for my self, But until then I will use and specify it where and when I can.
To those who have given up and gone open source cause they think it is just as good, I wish you lots of Luck and enjoy those sleepless nights trying to get them to do the same as LJ.
To Paul and all the other Martin names I don't know, Thank you and keep up the great work. I know you are all very passionate about LJ and will fight for it and continue to do everything you can to support the loyal users as long as you can.
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Technical Director
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Paul Pelletier
Administrator
Canada
7202 Posts |
Posted - 27 May 2010 : 23:16:38
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Thanks Steve! Great post and you're right on Open Source.
I use some open source software such as Gimp and some Home-Theater stuff..
As much as it is interesting to use, I all cases the same thing happen, it starts with a great hype and fade away within a year or two... Why simply because people who start these open-source move on on their life and don't have that free time anymore. and rarely someone picks it up and keep moving it...
I went through that myself with the LD calculator, after a few years I got too busy in my real job to keep working on it.
The other part is support... as a customer, it is important be able to get proper service. not always easy with open-source software.
This is my own personal opinion.
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Martin Professional A/S
paul.pelletier@martin.dk
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rwatters
New Member
new orleans la usa
10 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jun 2010 : 05:00:34
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| I loaded the 32 bit driver with Windows 7 today;works great. I'm a long-term user of LJ (from LJ 1 in 2000), and I've got to say that its the most cost effective platform out there. The continuing growth and improved functionality of the program is amazing and its one of the best tools in the club designers arsenal. The idea that some users expect Martin to keep support of the oldest boxes is ridiculous; I'd suggest that if you or the people you work for not able to absorb the cost of updating the hardware you're not charging enough for your services. Martin products have always been fairly priced and they've always plowed back a chunk of their profitability into developing and supporting their products; every time I invest some energy into working with competing products I'm always happy to return to LJ. |
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Troy Van Berry
Senior Member
USA
684 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2010 : 18:32:15
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| Martin please we need a fix for this ASAP. I must have the working drivers for Win 7 32 bit Home. |
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Paul Pelletier
Administrator
Canada
7202 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2010 : 19:56:14
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Hello Troy!
I can't tell you when/if it will be fixed. It can be easy and take a day but it could be nasty too...
In Win7 Home there are no XP virtualization, and I don't know what that would mean for Lightjockey itself.
I must admit that it was a strange decision from Microsoft to do this to the Home edition. |
Commercial Product Manager - Controllers
Martin Professional A/S
paul.pelletier@martin.dk
For controller questions and support email controllersupport@martin.dk |
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Carl Wake
Senior Member
USA
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Troy Van Berry
Senior Member
USA
684 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2010 : 19:23:55
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Well, that's exactly what I did. And yes I had to call my customer and get approval to spend more money after the fact. But the point here is simple;
Martin should have TOLD us that this product was NOT compatable with certian Windows OS.
We all look like amatures to our clients when we cannot present them with ACCURATE information about the products that we are recommending they use to meet their lighting needs! |
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Carl Wake
Senior Member
USA
511 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jun 2010 : 03:18:53
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Troy,
You’re right to a point, Martin does own some responsibility in this, but then you do as well by making sure that what you quote to your client is accurate in regards to what your selling is capable of doing what it is supposed to do. Given the history of LJ and its hardware with Vista, it stand to reason that one would be making real sure that LJ and its hardware works with all variants of WIN7 before telling the client to get the cheapest version of the OS.
You’ve been at this a long time, you should know better by now 
It is not just a matter of trust with Martin, its also a matter of trust with Microsoft, and we all know how that goes...
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Paul Pelletier
Administrator
Canada
7202 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jun 2010 : 03:58:34
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As we are still in the beta test phase of this driver we are also learning the differences between OS editions...
I added some notes in the sticky post regarding the Windows 7 Home Edition.
This until/if we have a solution. |
Commercial Product Manager - Controllers
Martin Professional A/S
paul.pelletier@martin.dk
For controller questions and support email controllersupport@martin.dk |
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bazam1
Average Member
New Zealand
223 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jun 2010 : 01:41:16
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I have the PCI 512 Channel Card. Will this work with Windows 7?
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Dramalight Lighting Systems
http://www.dramalight.co.nz
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Paul Pelletier
Administrator
Canada
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djroughhouse
New Member
Canada
23 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jun 2010 : 04:59:39
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I would say changes are slim to get that card to work, but, not impossible. Wish I has something like that to test, i'v managed to perform miracles :D Just for reference if it was possible, you'd have a better chance with 32-bit windows 7 than you would with 64-bit.
Good luck! |
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bazam1
Average Member
New Zealand
223 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jun 2010 : 07:41:20
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Tried the PCI:4064 Card with Windows 7 Professional x32 Version. No joy, get the BSOD when attempt to install the driver for PCI:4064 Card.
Interestingly The driver installer application works ok in XP comptiability mode and installs the driver and detects the Card.
Ah well worth a shot. Still works fine with Windows XP Pro.
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Dramalight Lighting Systems
http://www.dramalight.co.nz
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Troy Van Berry
Senior Member
USA
684 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jun 2010 : 20:52:09
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Originally posted by Carl Wake
Troy,
You’re right to a point, Martin does own some responsibility in this, but then you do as well by making sure that what you quote to your client is accurate in regards to what your selling is capable of doing what it is supposed to do. Given the history of LJ and its hardware with Vista, it stand to reason that one would be making real sure that LJ and its hardware works with all variants of WIN7 before telling the client to get the cheapest version of the OS.
You’ve been at this a long time, you should know better by now
It is not just a matter of trust with Martin, its also a matter of trust with Microsoft, and we all know how that goes...
Thanks Carl,
And your right, I should have known better. Well, another learning experience....another day in the biz.....!
And BTW, I still can't get the driver to load, don't know why?
Frustration level is high..... |
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